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 Pete
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North Coast NSW, Australia
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3/20/2005 | posted: 4/1/2005 at 3:32:44 AM ET
Did poor taste in song lyrics spring into life perfectly formed in the 1950's, or were there examples prior to this ?
I'm thinking of such gems as
"'There's a Tear In My Beer çause I'm Crying For You Dear"', and
"She Got The Ring And I got The Finger"'
or perhaps
"You Can't Have Your Kate And Edith To"'
..and who could forget
'"'They May Put Me In Prison But They Can't Stop My Face From Breaking Out"' ?
Are there worse than these...?
| suzyq
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11/18/2004 | posted: 4/3/2005 at 10:42:41 AM ET
Hi Pete,
How about some of what I suppose you could call music. It's as if someone wrote two or three notes and than, thump,thump,bang,bang - it's just noise.
Sometimes I wonder how some of the rock/pop singers would sound without all the mikes and other sound tricks that are used today. Probably would not be able to hear them and that would be a "good thing".
There are so many talented musicians and singers who never make it, a few do.
Guess, since I come from a musical family, my mother was a contralto - a Juilliard Grad and my father an accompianist, that I really want to hear good music and voices, whether classical, Brodway musical or popular.
Most of what I hear is just noise and overmiked singing, if that is what it is. I know you asked about lyrics, but for the most part, at least today, who would want to hear them. I'm sure there are some very good ballads out there - but you'd have to hear Betty Buckley and others sing them.
| rocketeer1985mlm
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4/2/2005 | posted: 4/3/2005 at 1:17:37 PM ET
there has been crappy music for as long as there has been people... it came to life at the bar scene. Look at old drinking songs. And i mean come on, how great does it have to be when your fans are all intoxicated. Of course, just because we dont like them doesnt mean it isnt good music. Its for the ear of the individual beholder to make that call. Someone liked it and thats why its there.
| Pete
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3/20/2005 | posted: 4/4/2005 at 7:06:23 PM ET
...and maybe what some people call tasteless lyrics, rocketeer, is just everyday life in the case of others?
After all, if your dog dies, you wife goes of with another guy, your car catchs alight, you get drunk and put in jail you arn't going to call a song "'I Should Be So Lucky"' if you write one, I guess.
Suzyq, you and I are singing from the same songsheet- Rap is a good example, don't you agree?
| suzyq
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11/18/2004 | posted: 4/4/2005 at 8:16:15 PM ET
Rap, I can't understand a thing, and sometimes you can catch a word or two and I don't want to find out what it is they are rapping about. I think there is some good rap -maybe someone knows more about it and will join in the fun.
I can remember the Beatles, Jefferson Airplane and Peter, Paul and Mary and there are others - they each have something going for them and still do (who ever is still actively performing). Dixie Land Jazz, most broadway musicals and some ballads are good to listen to, sing and dance along with. Even some Rock & Roll is fun - the lyrics don't make much sense,but the rhythm is good for the most part and fun to dance to. As for all that stuff we both hear, the 2 or 3 notes and bang, bang, thump, thump and overmiked singers (if these people were not miked, no-one would be able to hear them), are for the birds. Why they are called artists is beyond me.
Betty Buckley is an artist there are a few others but their names escape me at the moment. Living in New York, sometines on the subway platform there are some pretty good groups that entertain us - I spoke to one of the groups and asked if they ever got a chance to perform on stage, in some cases yes and sometimes they get "gigs".
Guess it's a matter of taste, something for everyone.
| PussCat
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4/25/2005 | posted: 4/26/2005 at 11:17:02 AM ET
I don't know guys, to completely write off entire genres? I have my preferences too, but there is always some group or person who breaks the rule. For instance, I generally don't like rap (gangsta in particular), but have albums from Eminem and DMX, which I like for no apparent reason. I also love Tchaikovsky and Vivaldi, then there is Santana, and Tom Petty, Aerosmith, Foo Fighters, Steve Miller Band, John Lee Hooker, Wagner, Third Eye Blind and Nirvana; it makes no sense! Why do I like such widely differing styles? Because they are so different, that's why. That is what is so great about music, all kinds for all types, you know? And personally, I love to try and figure out what (and if) the nonsensical lyrics mean. It's just fun.
Half this game is ninety percent mental. -D.Ozark
| Pete
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3/20/2005 | posted: 4/26/2005 at 11:48:24 AM ET
It does sound rather selective to write off an entire music type, I agree, and I admire your breadth of musical taste.
In my case I know I havn't been exposed to Rap except as explaining the distant connection to Blues and R and B.
It seems to me a very simplistic form of non-working class music, like Country and Western
trailer-trash music is. They both sell, thats the bottom line, I guess.
| PussCat
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4/25/2005 | posted: 4/26/2005 at 2:36:38 PM ET
Oh, definitely. The fact that you can immerse yourself in a totally different subculture and "walk in their shoes" so to speak is just a once in a lifetime opportunity. To communicate the how and why of people that are so radically different from you is something that only music can offer. Music expresses in multiple facets the worldview of the composer. It's something that just talking, or reading about can't do. Music gives you the words, but also the "feel", anger, sadness, joy, whatever it is that that culture lives each day. Whether you care about that perspective is individual to the listener, but music makes you aware at the very least.
Half this game is ninety percent mental. -D.Ozark
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